Friday, September 05, 2008

Do you HomeSchool?

I have a soapbox....come join it, or leave it behind-it's a long one!

*I was at the dentist office last week and a mom-of-one was sitting there staring at me as I was trying to keep the kids under control (they were doing a GREAT job of obeying) in the tiny waiting room.  She started asking me parenting advice, as she was expecting her 2nd and just didn't think she could handle two kids under three years old.  I really tried to empathize.

*I took all the kids + cute Spencer Weenig (he was staying with us for a couple days) to the new Children's Museum two weeks ago.  While they were busy slamming themselves against walls lined with mattresses and having a massive pillow fight (IT IS A FEATURE AT THE MUSEUM...my kids were not misbehaving!!!), a couple from LA struck a conversation up with me and thought I was a daycare provider (!!) until she really saw how all 7 kids looked like clones...even Spencer could fit in this family with his coloring.  This couple had their 1.0 child and they were done.  They started asking me all sorts of questions about kids, parenting, two-year-olds.  They even searched me out an hour later and were relieved to find I hadn't yet left so they could ask me more parenting questions.  Since when did I become the expert?

It's funny how people perceive you just because you have a gaggle or a basketball team, or a herd...whatever you'd like to call 'it.' Either they stand in judgement....or they gawk & send a lot of praise.  I do realize that most people just weren't meant to be parents of more than a few---or choose not to be... and bless them for that!  Some days I wonder what that would be like, but most days I'm thankful....especially now that school has started.

*Again, I ventured to OC to take Brayden, and the other kids + Spencer to Sprinkles and then Ruby's on the Huntington Beach Pier for his birthday lunch...just something different.  My kids, Brayden in particular, gets embarrassed when people stare.  He was embarrassed a lot that day as people stared in disbelief.  We get that a lot here in Cali.  It's only because they are two sets of 'stairs'...with a four year break in between.  Two older couples made a point to come up to me at the table and to tell me how well-behaved and beautiful they all were.  

"Bless You" is what I hear a lot.  Yes, I need it.  I need the little snippets of goodness and well-behaved 'moments' so that I don't feel we're running a freak show over here all the time.  It's physically, emotionally, spiritually EXHAUSTING.  And yes, I am blessed, we are blessed.  I need to feel that more often.

Then with all these conversations came THE question .... the one I get a lot--

"Do you homeschool?"  
"Why?  Do I look like I homeschool?"  Do homeschooled children typically act better in public?  Don't know, but my instant answer is always, "I'd rather be shot."  Isn't that awful?  I don't judge those that choose this path, but I guess I really just don't understand it.  So you homeschoolers....educate me!  I'm a proponent of public schools in general, Elementary Education is my BS, experience, and background, so I know the public education side of things.  No, it's not perfect by any means, but I just can't fathom sheltering my children from society.  Do you pull your kids out of the public system because they're little genius' that are getting lost and you don't want them to skip a grade?  Or are you just not getting involved enough in the education process...in the classroom to know really what's going on?  Seriously, I want to know--what motivates you?

I have a 'friend' that is a queen social bee, a very self-centered person generally, goes on 4-6 lavish vacations a year who recently decided to homeschool.  I think it was for the freedom of not having to explain to the schools why her kids were absent for yet another week... with super tanned bodies sporting new island wear.  They quickly ran out of dead grandparents and illnesses. Flexibility...yes, it offers that.  You can stay in your pj's.  Sounds good to me, but not generally a healthy mental thing.  You aleviate the taunting, teasing, bullying that normally occurs in this very rude world.  Unless you belong to our family where taunting and teasing go on constantly anyway.  But does that properly prepare them for normal life experiences?  And curriculum...Christian-based or in my case, Book of Mormon-based...HUGE plus,  BUT aren't we teaching that anyway in our homes?  Shouldn't we already be establishing "A house of prayer, house of fasting, a house of faith, a house of learning, a house of glory, a house of order, a house of God" without homeschooling?

 It takes a generally patient person to be a successful mom of six--jury's still out on how successful I am, but in case you're wondering, I can't fathom homeschooling--   

E V E R!  Not even in my vocab.  THAT takes either a really special saint-of-a-mom or an insane one.  I know quite a few of them.  Mostly they're saints.  Nothing in between.  'Joy school' for little three-year-olds--maybe.   But I really question if homeschool is the best thing for kids in general.  I derive my sanity from the hours of oh, about 8-3.  So maybe I'm selfish?  Or maybe I'm just real and that's my only way of maintaing a healthy balance.  There are just some moms that are more capable, adventurous, more selfless than me.  Or maybe their children really struggle to behave or function in mainstream society so their parents choose to shelter them, or to straighten them out for a period, then send them back to be better citizens?  I don't know--maybe I'm ignorant.

I think it's important for the kids to venture out in the world as little people.  As long as they're being taught righteous principles and virtues at home, I have NO PROBLEM with them being taught by very capable teachers at school.   Don't they need to learn how to pick good friends?   You get the good with the bad, yes...but socialization and interacting with peers is so important...learning what normal voice tones are and learning to get along with a myriad of different personalities and situations, having the opportunity for leadership experiences...making their way in this crazy world.  

And the best part? They know they have a pair of super supportive parents and the open arms of a loving family to come home to that have gained some extra sanity from 8-3...everyday....{IF their room was clean & their job was done --otherwise it's not such a loving mom greeting them on the other side of the door.}

I guess life is a series of choices, and hopefully prayerful ones.  These choices are the beauty of our agency, and I suppose some are cut out for the task and some are just not,  I'm a  N.O.T.

12 comments:

Heather said...

I don't quite get the home-school thing either. One of my Beehives comes from a family of 5 children, and they are homeschooled. She is the sweetest, most well-behaved girl, but she is also so naive. She comes to church and is so needy with the other girls. She wants them to invite her places and go to their homes. Her parents are very sheltering. She babysits for me sometimes, and the first time I went to pick her up, she looked out the window and saw me, and then had to ask permission to open the door to me. I was blown away that a 12 yr old had to ask for permission to open the door for her YW leader! I'm all for teaching the gospel in the home and letting my kids experience school!

Teresa Beth Brower Timms said...

I remember "the looks" I use to get with my six little ones - AND ONLY ONE GIRL - people really gawked at us.

Once when I only had four and was 7 months along with # five we were at Jack-in-the-Box in Malibu (after a day at the beach.) A man standing in line behind me started ridiculing me and going on about how our earth is over populated yadda yadda yadda. I didn't turn around and even acknowledge him until he shouted at me, "What in the ---- are you going to do with five kids???!!!" I turned and looked him in the eyes and proclaimed, "LOVE THEM". That shut him up. I was so proud that my four little ones were being so well behaved. (even thought they were sunburned and hungry).

Some kids thrive in home schooling, and I admire parents who can balance EVERYTHING. (However I've only seen a very few be truly successful at it, still be sane, and have emotionally well rounded kids). I appreciated the programs and help - at church, school, neighbors, family, friends and in the community in raising and educating my family.

rebecca said...

My 2 cents.....I don't know if you consider pre-schooling at home home-schooling, but if you do then I'm home-schooling Caroline. We're having a blast and I'm pocketing the $ I'd pay for someone else to color with her, sing, have snacks, teach shapes and letters, social skills, yada, yada..... nothing I can't do, and I'm happy to take this on right now. Bottom line... niether Wayne nor I felt strongly enough about sending her to pre-school to send her; there wasn't the need (for her or me-both have always been considered) for her to go.

We're very happy with our public schools here, so from Kindergarten on up, this really isn't an issue for us. The only thing we've debated (with all of our kids) has been pre-school, and it honestly was not a hard decision in each instance (& we chose differently for each child).

I've seen home-schooling work and not work, but I'm hearing more and more women who I deeply admire and respect consider home-schooling their children. I do think it's evolving. I hope your friend and her kids have a great experience.

shayla said...

Bec-
I completely agree with you about the preschool thing. I have so enjoyed doing the same things with our girls. But they all have craved peer social interaction and the idea of an actual preschool at one time or another--we're taking it for a whirl with both Iz & Lex right now. Routine is a wonderful thing any way they get it!

I was thinking about elementary-high school and the nitty gritty big-time subjects. I've seen some do it out of family convenience, and some do it out of frustrations over class size, and some do it hoping to correct behavior issues and MANY do it to shelter their kids from our crazy world.

queenieweenie said...

Okay...you don't even need to ask me how I feel about home-schooling-no flippin' way! I love that my kids feel comfortable around their peers and away from me during the day. I think school is about a lot more than "book learnin'"...That said, I know it takes a special kind of mother to home school-I just ain't one of them.

***Thanks again for taking Spencer. He had a blast, and you're right, he does fit right in! Our kids are CUTE...maybe that's why we have so many.

Meredith said...

I am stalking you - as a friend of Whitney's! (She mentioned both you and me in one of her recent posts.) I also don't get it homeschooling. I could never day care other's kids either - "I would rather be shot" comes to mind too! My oldest (7) is in an accelerated alternative school and I can hardly help with her sentence diagramming homework and I was an AP student and went to college ! So, my knowledge has been surpassed at 2nd grade. I happily bow to the alternative public school staff. Have at her from 8:10 until 2:40! After that she is mine again!

BTW - your family is beautiful!

Julie K said...

I have come a long way along the spectrum of Personal Feelings On Home School. So I can identify with all of your opinions. Right now I am at the jealous stage. Jealous of people who in my opinion "get to do homeschool right". There will always be those that mess it up, but today I am just talking about the homeschools I admire. Buckle Up.

My friend Katie does homeschool. 4 of her six are of age. She has a playroom upstairs that is the School Room. Black board, seasonal calendar decorations and all. In November we stayed a night with them on our way to Cali (they are in Vegas). I spent a lot of time in that school room looking around at their work. Amazing. Seriously. They do have gifted kids, but for Katie it was more about the whole package. She takes them all to the grocery store and they help her shop. They learn to cook with her. They can clean that entire house, like maids. Her friend (another mom that home schools) comes and teaches them paino and other instruments during the week. Katie goes and teaches that friend's kids. Homeschool reaches the "measure of it's creation" when it utilizes all of the resources of lots of other homeschool families. Different moms to teach Science and Art and Math. Enriching activities like gardening and field trips schools can't afford. The kids get together frequently and do activities together. Katie also gives birth at home. I know, that just made you mentally check out and say forget it, but stay with me here. Katie isn't some hippy bohemian chick. She is one of the funniest, most creative, dynamic people I know. She met her husband at BYU, where they both performed in the Garrens, an improv comedy group. She frequently writes Road Shows and other things for the youth in her stake to perform. Her kids are wonderful. And charming and funny. They really are. And not the least bit backwards. I watched Katie help each one while we were there, watched as she helped her shy son reach a personal goal that day, that he would extend an invitation to my boys to come outside and play. She is so present in each of her kid's lives. I know that I don't have to be a homeschool mom to do that, to really spend the time to work with my kids, but i can see how much more time she has to do that by having them home during the day. My kids leave at 8:50 and come back at 4:30. I feel like the frenzy of dinner and homework robs me of real time with them, one on one. Katie is special, there is no denying that. But she isn't the only one that is doing an amazing homeschool job. It helps that where she is there is a whole group of smart women involved in homeschool (thus my jealousy mentioned earlier). But I really believe--and this is homeschool gospel according to Julie--that we LDS families in the future will be lead to homeschooling. Maybe not before our kids graduate, but definitely in the wrap up of the "latter days". You know, when things will be such that we will have to be self sufficient--the food storage, the garden, etc.

So there it is, my personal comment/novel on homeschooling. I agree, by the way, with everything you said, but still.....I'm envious of the woman who makes it work so much better than I do.

shayla said...

I LOVED READING EVERYONE'S COMMENTS!

I so feel your frenzy, Julie! But what you said kind of inspired me about your friend. I already do a lot of that stuff at home...but I guess the key is being in a homeschool group where each family helps another with their key skills. So many I know are solo-ing it without a major skill set. Not that I'm wanting to try that, but it makes perfect sense. Maybe that's my prob--I still try to fit all the music, dance, homework, sports, and extras in to a week that's already jam-pack full for the kids so it creates a frenzy. So some of the kids I know are backwards, but many are not and they are getting the best of the best in terms of influences. It's good to hear of great successes.

In terms of the after-school frenzy and not a lot of one on one time with the older kids...my mom used to make us play hookie from school once in a while. She'd pick one of us and then we'd head out for a day on the town..our choice. It was her time with us which just didn't happen otherwise with the chaos that IS a big family. I started that with our kiddos.

Another thing I want to implement...a friend of a friend has 5 kids and makes each of them (even the 2 year old) plan the menu and make dinner one night a week. They each pick a night...go over the recipe, ingredients and the mom shops once a week and then assists the younger ones in the prep --even IF the 2 year old picks mac & cheese...they each take part one day a week and it creates self-sufficient kids with more than eggos or hot pockets. My little girls love to help, but if I let them plan it then how much greater is that for them, and in the future for me?!

Emily said...

That's so funny, at first glance I really did think that Spencer was one of your kids. I had to look again to notice you had three boys in the picture.

When we lived in CA my mom had 6 kids, I'll have to ask her if she got gawked at. I do know that because the two youngest were blonde she was constantly asked if she adopted or was babysitting them. Once we moved to back to UT and she added 1 more, we blended in well ;)

I doubt homeschooling would be for me, but I'm sure some people are successful with it. The social aspect was THE reason I put Jonas in preschool, it is amazing the effect it has had on improving his speech. I try to have fun activities for my boys at home as well. I have heard of homeschooling "groups" which I think would be better adding a variety of kids to the mix rather than just siblings.

Sims Family said...

Just a thought...In Arizona you get paid about $5,000 per child to home school. Does that change your mind about it? :) I'm sure some parents like that perk. Me? No way. You couldn't pay me enough.

Halversen Happenings said...

I LOVED going to school and so do Reily and Jacklyn. I understand why parents chose to home-school, but it never felt like the right thing for us. Even though our schools aren't as good as they could be, I see children in other countries who don't have schools to go to or countries where only boys get to go to school and I am grateful. Besides, I would be a horrible teacher! ;)

Stacey Lau said...

I know people who have done home- shooling successfully by integrating their kids in a lot of extracurricular activities for the social side of it.

That being said, I agree with you, I can't fathom it. I would not be capable, nor do I have the desire. I love my little munchkins, but a little time apart is good for all of us!

It's funny because in Michigan we are the average family of 2 kids. But in Utah, jaws drop when I tell them that "we're done" and they say things like "You're too young to be done!" J started a rumor in his family that he had a vasectomy (lol) so people don't even ask us about it in his family anymore. Sometimes J can be really smart.

People are probably shocked that you have so many kids partly because you look so young (you are) and you are such a beautiful family. If I saw you, I would be thinking..."did she reall have ALL those kids?" :)

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